Big Velvet failed as a bucking horse and is a work in progress as a saddle horse. Not your typical draft cross...has withers, athletic, can run. The road to get him broke to ride is taking more time than we have to give. We have him to where he can be caught, brushed, saddled, bridled and we have been on him in the round pen. The end product here could be every cowboy's dream. 16.1 hands tall and heavy made. Experience is a must with this guy. Please call with questions. Steve Greene (417.450.7133) Grady Beran (816.332.9922)